To: [email protected]
From:
Sean W.
Date:
January 13, 2022 10:23 PM
Subject:
Rant ‚ Rogers Bandwidth Cap
I
recently had a experience which illustrates beautifully the
incompetence and shoddy business ethics of Rogers Hi Speed
Internet and support staff. Please give it a read, I
hope it warrants a rant. It is rather long so I have
set up a url with the details and pictures of their letters.
It is informative, or so I have been told. Sorry for
the popups and whatnot, decent webhosting has become hard
to find.
http://sean.envy.nu/rogerssucks
Sean
IhateROGERS.ca
Comments
Anyone
with an opinion on this bandwidth topic and people being suspended
from their Internet access with ROGERS should check out Sean's
site. This has really become a major new source of irritation
from ROGERS. In my opinion what they're doing is criminal.
I'd like to know why there's no link to www.ihaterogers.ca
on your site Sean? I'm on your side.
To: [email protected]
From:
Joel G.
Date:
January 14, 2022 7:37 PM
Subject:
Rogers Radio Rant
hello,
living
in ottawa we have a very limited radio market as it is. When
rogers decided to shut down 101.1 xfm, my favorite station,
to say the least i was furious. Tho i do understand the business,
the changes they made to me, prove that they have no idea
what their doing. First of all, they moved the old country
station from 105, to 101, to make room for a kiss fm to fill
a supposed void left by kool fm for the female 25-45 market.
To me this makes no sense, kool fm failed to the new hot 89.9,
and voer 80% of its listeners supported the change to BOB
fm, which would play music mostly from when they grew up (and
ive heard the station has been doing very well for itself).
so basically they ditched a very important demographic (males
18-25) who have lots of spending time and power, for a format
that has already failed, and very well could again with the
station that failed is doing quite well under its new format
for the same demographic. Since the shutdown there has been
quite an outrage in the younger demographic as basically we
have no stations, cept for one, and not everyone is into rap
and techno. This is a big mistake on the side of rogers, and
i hope that someone can bring this format back and be sucessful,
make rogers look like the idiots they are.
Another
station that i like, chez 106 was bought out by rogers a few
years back, and quite frankly it hasnt been the same. its
still good, but its lost it a bit. some stuff that doesnt
belong on it. just another fact of rogers not knowing how
to run a radio station. also reading around, the switch to
y101 hasnt been well accepted by the former y105 fans as the
signal isnt as strong and not many people who listened to
it before can't now.
my
family and i ditched rogers cable years back for dish company
called look. its been very reliable, and there hasnt been
a price increase in years. it doesnt have any of the new stations,
buts its a hell of alot better then rogers.
Joel
G.
IhateROGERS.ca
Comments
Holy
Andy Travis Batman, that is one hell of a lot of information
on Ottawa radio! This is probably the first rant on the topic
and I'm happy to post it. By the way for anyone that doesn't
know who Andy Travis is, he was the Program Director for WKRP
in Cincinatti. Anyways, as far as Ottawa radio goes, why should
things be any better there than it is when it comes to Internet
service in the GTA by ROGERS? Of course it sucks ass Joel...it's
ROGERS and they are nothing if not consistent.
To: [email protected]
From:
Andrew M.
Date:
January 14, 2022 10:11 PM
Subject:
Rogers
I
can't believe that this site exists. Rogers is my most
hated company, and I get myself riled up every so often just
to keep myself hating them, unfortunately I'm also a customer
(recently cancelled one of my two rogers accounts in a blinding
fit of outrage).
So
how can I get a t-shirt before the online store opens? And
are there any others, perhaps with a real Rogers logo on them?
IhateROGERS.ca
Comments
A
"blinding fit of outrage" and you cancelled only 1 of your
2 accounts? How mad would you have to get to cancel the other?
How can someone get that mad and then stay loyal to the catalyst?
What would they have to do to get you to cancel your other
account? Run over your dog? Poison your beloved grand ma-ma?
What if they put itching powder in your condom? Sounds to
me like you enjoy the abuse. Are you a masochist Andrew?
To: [email protected]
From:
Candy&Steve
Date:
January 15, 2022 6:23 PM
Subject:
My
god Rogers has almost ruined my life!
Then
3 hours later...
To: [email protected]
From:
Candy&Steve
Date:
January 15, 2022 9:29 PM
Subject:
Is
there any lawers who speacialize in bill and contract stuff?
Rogers
has me by the balls!
IhateROGERS.ca
Comments
Thank
you for your 2 very detailed e-mails. Just kidding Candy&Steve.
Candy&Steve...you 2 sound like swingers. "Hi, I'm Candy...Steve
and I were just wondering if you and your wife..."
Anyways,
to answer your question, there are lawyers that specialize
in contract stuff. They're called contract lawyers oddly enough.
To: [email protected]
From:
B.C.
Date:
January 15, 2022 6:26 PM
Subject:
T-Shirt
Hello,
I am a former Rogers customer service consultant. I worked
three long years for Rogers. I quite Rogers in October,
2003. I can honestly say I hate Rogers. I have visited your
site and read most of the hate mail and the letter from one
of the consultants whom wrote you about Felix. For those who
doubt it, there is a Felix and the brains in Toronto
put every possible scenario together and developed a script
to respond to the situation. Every situation neatly mapped
out. Every "t" crossed and every "i" dotted.
There is no room for creativity or real customer service.
I tried to be the exception to the rule by providing world
class customer service. My customers were happy and praised
my work. Some took the time to speak to my manage other took
the time to write. At first it made me happy and energized
me to go on to the next Rogers customer. Unfortunately Rogers
didn't share their enthusiasm. Rogers monitors their
customer calls for quality. This simply means that they monitor
the representative to see if the followed the best practice
(script) found in Felix. Responded to the customers concerns
and attempted to upsell the customer on every call. All of
this being timed of course. Seconds are counted at Rogers.
The less time a customer is on the line with you the lower
the cost per call. Since stats on call performance and quality
are the measure of your worth as a person at Rogers most
times customers get the rush treatment. If your problem for calling requires
creativity this all has to be approved by management because
all freedom of thought and control has been removed from the
representative. Forcing the representative to stick to the
script in Felix. Because most representatives are
students or out sourced call centres ( call centre whom are
not Rogers owned and paid to answer your calls) most of them
never care to complete their work. The following month the
customer would call about the same problem that should have
been resolved the first time. Sometimes the same problem just
doesn't get fixed and customers are forced to call month after
month for the same problem. Most times the billing system
known as vision 21 would have glitches in it making it
impossible to fix. Reps just smile tell you its fix and hope
they don't speak to you next month. We'd have to start
all over and rehash the problem then try to fix their bumbling.
Some of the idiots I worked with couldn't screw in a light
bulb with instructions with pictures. Most of them just didn't
care till pay day because they were there temporarily while
they completed school or found a real job. Ted and Bob are
trying to stream line things for greater profitability. This
may be good for them and the investors but ultimately we all
know who suffers. The customer!
The management tries very hard to paint this place
as a rosy place to work where everyone is happy and content. They
paint the picture of unlimited possibilities for future advancement
and flash the almighty dollar to keep their people around
for the longest time possible. Employees of Rogers usually
last about 2 to 3 years then realise like myself that
they have been sold a fairy tail. The management
uses smoke and mirrors to fool their employees in to being
productive little drones regurgitating the Rogers scripts.
Employees who want advancement must bust their ass and kiss
ass to advance. Each rep is encouraged to live Rogers vision
and values and are praised for being mindless little Ted
drones. Management tries very hard to paint a picture
of the perfect job with wonderful benefits and promises of
advancement. This my friends is about as reliable as pillow
talk from a $10 hooker!
From time to time employees get ill or like myself burn
out. I was offered a trial position with more responsibility
and more pay in the future as a Management Support Representative. Here
is a good one for you to know! When you aren't getting anywhere
with a representative and ask for a manager you get
transferred to someone like me! I was no manager!!! Just
someone told to lie and say I was in order to handle
customer escalations. Yes, I was told to lie! The funniest
thing about this is that I had no more authority than
the previous representative. When I said no to a customer
request they believed they were talking to a manager
and that was it and the end of the story! Next time you
ask for a manager ask for a number to reach them a direct
number if the person on the end of the line can't do this
then they are not a real manager. Managers have direct telephone
lines with no extension numbers to dial. As a management
support representative it was my job to coach the representatives
on how to do their jobs and handle escalations. Most
of these so called escalations were calls about
issues the representative had no desire to resolve even
though it was within their abilities. After a year
of doing this our team of 8 individuals were getting
pretty upset with the fact we hadn't seen Rogers acknowledge
our advanced skill set or the raise they had promised us in
the beginning. They used every excuse in the book
to justify that we were not getting more money. My supervisor
being the stand up guy he was went forward to the director
of our call centre. Shared our thoughts and feelings with
the director and supported our demands. Later that day
my manager was told to clear out his desk that he was being
let go. He accepted a severance package that Rogers slipped a
clause in to. The clause was he couldn't sue the company for
unjust dismissal. He was told he was being let go as he didn't share
the same vision and values as upper management. What bunch
of people! Shortly after this I fell ill. My doctor put me
out with a stress disorder. Our wonderful benefits lasted
a whole three weeks. My doctor suggested more time off
as I was in very bad shape at the time. Unfortunately
Rogers doctor whom never examined me once didn't share my
doctors opinion and ended my benefits. Rogers called me up
and told me to be back to work on Monday. I argued the
point. This got me no where fast. Finally they offer me a
unpaid leave of absence. So I spent the next 15 weeks on Unemployment
insurance. I could have returned to work sooner but the abuse
I endured from management and human resources made me
resentful and I stayed out as long as I could. I
spent the summer resting and regaining my old self. I finally
returned to work to be demoted. Their excuse was that due
to my absence I could no longer perform the advanced skill
set because I was out of date with material. By the way
this was the same advance skill set they would not acknowledge
or compensate us for. So they put me back on regular
customer service. A few days later I was back up to date
and exceeding expectations. I wanted to be back with
my friends on my old team but they made it know there was
no chance of that happening any time soon. I realised there
was no chances for advancement here. Six months later
I hurt myself and this time there was visible damage
they could not deny it. I was able to stay off work this
time and I kept my benefits. My doctor knowing
Rogers bullshit kept me out for the summer. My doctor
recommended a Orthopaedic chair and I was told by corporate
health I was to receive a new chair upon my return to
work and that all accommodations that could be made
to make me comfortable was going to be done. Well I went
back. Guess what? When I asked where my chair was they said they
were not going to be getting me a chair and that the
head of health and safety adjusted my chair to accommodate
my back injury. This would be a hard thing to do since
the chair had been already adjusted to the max. There was
nothing to do to make it any comfortable. I spent
a few hours sitting and my back injury began to
hurt terribly. I got up a left and went to see my doctor.
Shared my situation with him and Rogers antics. He was really
pissed at Rogers and put me back out on sick leave and told
me he wasn't letting me return to Rogers without
an orthopaedic chair being present at my work station. Almost
two months went by and finally a chair showed up. At this
point I knew my future at Rogers would be short lived.
A friend in management told me that they intended to get rid
of me because I cost the company too much money. Had they
got me the chair in the first place they would have saved
about 3 months of short term disability. I was suppose to
return to work but instead of doing that I called in and told
them I quit. I was so happy I think I called everyone I knew.
It was like a weight of oppression was removed from me and
I began to live again.
The
same day I quit I handed in my notice to my land lord,
left the lousy cheating girl I lived with, moved
out, started a new life, moved out, and regained a piece of
me they had robbed me of all these year. On that day I found
myself respect and felt so much relief. I hate Rogers
for the way they treat their customers. I hate Rogers for
the way they mistreat and manipulate their employees. I hate
Rogers for the way they manipulated their benefit program
to suit themselves when it came to me and many others.
Not only did I quit them I quit their services as well. I
cancelled my cell phone and found better service which saves
me about $60 a month. I also dumped their cable and internet
service and went with DSL and Satellite. I would have to agree
with you that Bell DSL is a faster service in most areas!
I even cancelled my new girl friends cell service! Now were
both happier!
As you can see not only are Rogers customers abused, manipulated,
and just straight-out lied to so are their employees. For
those employees with Rogers still living within the fantasy
world I say open your eyes. Watch what happens when an employee
gives their notice that they are leaving because they are
unhappy. Watch how fast they get escorted out the door so
as to not spoil the fantasy for the others and then get paid
their two weeks to stay at home. Don't be fooled in to believing
good things will come your way! Unless you nose is brown from
kissing ass it isn't going to happen! Don't live Ted's lie!
I encourage you to look around. There are other opportunities
out there.
I hate Rogers! I hate what they stand for! I hate Ted
for abusing his power! I hope he knows that I will be in line
at his funeral to urinate on his grave! I would be honoured
and would proudly wear one of your t-shirt!!! Can you contact
me about getting a t-shirt, please.
Thanks,
B.C.
IhateROGERS.ca
Comments
My
goodness, you have so many reasons to hate ROGERS. I have
become well informed on how they treat their own staff. When
your employer makes you miserable, it's impossible to not
make your customers miserable. Internally, the way ROGERS
operates is horrifying. Uneducated, uninformed, non-thinking
CSRs are not going to satisfy customers. Is this such a hard
concept to grasp?
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